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« on: October 29, 2010, 09:13:57 pm »

I was on "wheels" the other night and stumbled unto this thread:

http://www.wheelsjamaicahost.com/wheels_forum/index.php?topic=62145.50

A mark 1 Escort is being restored (well...) by placing the body on top of an Impreza chassis/engine...
While, I am a little disappointed to see the Subbie sliced and diced...I really like Escorts! 2 thumbs up

I think that this also speaks to the reliability (and parts availability) of Subaru and the EJ20 engine.... 2 thumbs up

The RS200 that is pictured in the thread is also Subbie based.... wub

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 09:21:38 pm »

Videos of a Mark II Escort with the same setup....they left the Subbie wheelbase intact, so it looks funny....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8hFPJMtHL0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u64kJUQEyFo&feature=player_embedded

I've seen Subbie engined VWs and planes, but Subbie engined Fords (Fubaru? Sord?) is definitely new....
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 10:19:59 pm »

Ya man, known about that project Perky had for a long time now.  That was what had me thinking of another version at one point when I had access to a Cosworth 'green top' Turbo engine; I actually researched the possibility of dropping it in a GC chassis.  Now THAT, woulda sick all of unnu out a road .............   biggrin
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 09:05:05 pm »

Ya man, known about that project Perky had for a long time now.  That was what had me thinking of another version at one point when I had access to a Cosworth 'green top' Turbo engine; I actually researched the possibility of dropping it in a GC chassis.  Now THAT, woulda sick all of unnu out a road .............   biggrin

That sounds like a lot of work B; like the dude that stuffed an SR20det in a BMW.... No Clue

The "Fubaru" conversion is intriguing; looks like it could start a trend.
It seems, that many GC chassis Impreza's went to England and can be had cheaply now....
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 10:24:13 am »

lol, haven't heard of SR20 BMW but the 2jz is a common drop-in to the E36 chassis.  Back when I had my M3, there was a black E36 4dr down here, running an RB25DET.   
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2010, 09:22:58 pm »

SR20/RB26/2JZ into an E30/E36/E46 are all manageable projects as physically, the space is there for them. Once you have a good electrician and someone who can fabricate the mounts for the engine and other accessories, your cool. Basils idea of putting the Cossie 2.0 in a GC however, would create a car that would really exacerbate the under-steer of the Subaru because (1) the Cossie 2.0 is a heavier engine than the EJ20 and (2) its a significantly longer engine which would result in even more weight being further in-front of the front axle. It would also be a butt-ugly car as the front fenders and hood would need extensive modification to house the longer engine.

Sick us outta road? Yup, we'd all be vomiting from the site of that fugly bastard  Die While Laughing
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2010, 09:23:39 pm »

lol, haven't heard of SR20 BMW but the 2jz is a common drop-in to the E36 chassis.  Back when I had my M3, there was a black E36 4dr down here, running an RB25DET.   

Best thing to happen to that E36 thats for sure  2 thumbs up
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 07:41:16 am »

lol, haven't heard of SR20 BMW but the 2jz is a common drop-in to the E36 chassis.  Back when I had my M3, there was a black E36 4dr down here, running an RB25DET.  

Yeah, I saw the SR swap in an Austrailian video that was comparing Sr20 engines in various platforms....

I've read about the 2jz swap....never heard of an RB though....that should be awesome! 2 thumbs up

Best thing to happen to that E36 thats for sure  2 thumbs up

Play nice Stig...the 3.0/3.2-six in the e-36 is a good engine, but I take your point; an RB would be vastly superior...
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 01:56:54 pm »

Mine was the 3.2 and chipped with no traction control; and if you think that was a wild ride, that RB/E36 was a freakin beast, it was shearing off flex discs.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 06:58:11 am »

Mine was the 3.2 and chipped with no traction control; and if you think that was a wild ride, that RB/E36 was a freakin beast, it was shearing off flex discs.

OK then....was it the RB20 or 26?
BMW's seem to be well suited for these swaps.

Check these:

RB26:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt78wNz-2fk&feature=related
RB20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkQxoeCDFpo&feature=related
Sr20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahzsAawBmG0&feature=related
JZ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mjPT3ggk8&feature=related
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 06:33:05 pm »

OK then....was it the RB20 or 26?
BMW's seem to be well suited for these swaps.


RB26DET
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 09:44:29 pm »

Yeah, I saw the SR swap in an Austrailian video that was comparing Sr20 engines in various platforms....

I've read about the 2jz swap....never heard of an RB though....that should be awesome! 2 thumbs up

Play nice Stig...the 3.0/3.2-six in the e-36 is a good engine, but I take your point; an RB would be vastly superior...

Not a matter of not playing nice pardy but as far as outright power, tunability and simple inherent strength is concerned, the S54 can't hold a candle to the RB20/25/26/30. 500hp on a stock bottom-end? Don't think the S54 could do that be reliable.

I am not knocking the S54 as its quite an achievement for the time it was built but the RB, in my opinion, is a stronger engine with loads more potential.
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